I remember in like ’95, or ’96, I’d just started writing and me and Inkwell had just kinda started vibing seriously, putting some topics together beyond just the basic freestyle session in the hallway late night at school, and I remember I had met [?] from Brothers Grim, the first kid I knew who had a sampler, that was putting it down seriously, he gave me some tips, you know, which kinda sparked me to, to wanna get my own sampler and create our own sound, I was, I was really determined at that point